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Model A Identification

 

Model A Vehicle Identification

Body Type Identification Charts

How to Tell a Briggs From A Murray

Glass Logo Specifications

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Vehicle Identification

1928-29 STANDARD COUPE (45-A)

1928-29 SPECIAL COUPE (49-A)

1930-31 STD & DLX COUPE (45-B)

1928-29 BUSINESS COUPE (54-A)


1928-29 SPORT COUPE (50-A)


1930-31 SPORT COUPE (50-B)


1929 CABRIOLET (68-A)


1930-31 CABRIOLET (68-B)


1930-31 VICTORIA (190-A)


1930-31 CONVERTIBLE SEDAN (400-A)


1928-29 TUDOR SEDAN (55-A)


1930-31 TUDOR SEDAN (55-B)


1929 STEELBACK FORDOR (60-C)


1929-31 2-WINDOW FORDOR (170-A,B)


1929-31 3-WINDOW FORDOR (BRIGGS)
(155-B,D/165B,D)


1929-31 3-WINDOW FORDOR (MURRAY)
(155-A,C/165A,C)


1930-31 SLANT WINDSHIELD FORDOR (160-A,B,C)


1928-29 LEATHERBACK FORDOR (60-A,B)


1928-29 STANDARD PHAETON (35-A)


1930-31 STANDARD PHAETON (35-B)


1930-31 DELUXE ROADSTER (40-B)


1928-29 STANDARD ROADSTER (40-A)


1930-31 STANDARD ROADSTER (40-B)


1930-31 DELUXE PHAETON (180-A)


1928-29 OPEN CAB PICKUP (76-A)


1930-31 OPEN CAB PICKUP (76-B)


1928-29 CLOSED CAB PICKUP (82-A)


1930-31 CLOSED CAB PICKUP (82-B)

 


1928-29 STATION WAGON (150-A)


1930-31 STATION WAGON (150-B)

 

Model A Fordor Body Style Identification

1928-29 (60-A,B) LEATHERBACK 4 DOOR SEDAN

1929-31 (170-A,B) 2 WINDOW 4 DOOR SEDAN

1929 (60-C) STEELBACK 4 DOOR SEDAN

1931 (160-A) SLANT WINDOW 4 DOOR MURRAY SEDAN

Model A Body Style Identification Front & Side View

1928-29 Front View

1928-29 Cowl Side View

 

 

1930 Front View

1931 Front View

1930-31 Cowl Side View

 

 

Body Type ID Chart
Passenger Vehicles

Body Name
1928
1929
1930*
1931
Standard Phaeton
35A
35A
35B
35B
Deluxe Phaeton
-
-
180A
180A
Standard Roadster
40A
40A
40B (Std.)
40B (Std.)
Deluxe Roadster
-
-
40B (Dlx.)
40B (Dlx.)
Standard Coupe
45A
45A
45B (Std.)
45B (Std.)
Deluxe Coupe
-
-
45B (Dlx.)
45B (Dlx.)
Special Coupe
49A
49A
-
-
Sport Coupe
50A
50A
50B
50B
Business Coupe
54A
54A
-
-
Tudor Sedan
55A
55A
55B (Std.)
55B (Std.)
Deluxe Tudor Sedan
-
-
-
55B(Dlx. )
Leatherback Fordor (Brown)
60A
60A
-
-
Leatherback Fordor (Black)
-
60B
-
-
Steelback Fordor
-
60C**
-
-
Cabriolet
-
68A
68B
68B
Cabriolet
(Slant Window)
-
-
-
68C
Station Wagon
-
150A
150B*
150B
Town Sedan
(Murray)
-
155A
155C
155C
Town Sedan
(Briggs)
-
155B
155D
155D
Standard Fordor
(Slant Window)
-
-
-
160A
Town Sedan
(Slant Window)
-
-
-
160B
Deluxe Fordor
-
-
-
160C
Standard Fordor (Murray)
-
165A
165C
165C
Standard Fordor (Briggs)
-
165B
165D
165D
Standard Fordor
(2 Windows)
-
170A**
170B (Std.)
-
Deluxe Fordor
(2 Windows)
-
-
170B (Dlx.)
170B (Dlx.)
Victoria
-
-
190A
190A
Convertible Sedan
-
-
-
400A
 
 
 
 
 

Body Type ID Chart
Commercial Vehicles

Body Name
1928
1929
1930*
1931
Open Cab Pickup
76A
76A
76B*
76B
Closed Cab Pickup
82A
82A
82B*
82B
“A” Panel Delivery
79A
79A
79B*
79B
“AA” Panel Delivery
(131-1/2")
85A
85A
85B*
85B
Deluxe Delivery (Standard)
130A
130A
130B*
130B
Deluxe Delivery
(Drop Floor)
-
-
130B
130B
“AA” Panel Delivery (157")
-
-
-
210A
“A” Panel Delivery
(Drop Floor)
-
-
-
225A
Special Delivery
-
-
-
255A
Town Car Delivery
-
-
-
295A
Deluxe Delivery (“AA”)
-
-
-
300A

* Change-over from 1929 to 1930 models was in January, 1930 for passenger cars & in June, 1930 for commercial vehicles.

** If you cannot decide if your car body is a 60C or a 170A you can quickly tell by examining the front door post. If it is all steel, it is a 170A. If it has wood parts, it is a 60C.

 

How to Tell a Briggs From A Murray

 

Glass Specifications

To please the perfectionist, we offer Concours grade windows – intended for car show & points competition automobiles. These are superior quality 1/4" laminated safety glass (AS1 CAT-II). Exposed edges are beautifully polished or black edged & the original manufacturers sandblasted script (logo & date, sometimes referred to as the “bug”) is duplicated to reproduce the O.E.M. appearance (because they’re concours, tint options are not available). These details are applied with great care & meticulous craftsmanship.

Black edging refers to the process used to seal exposed glass edges & was necessary in the early years of automobile manufacturing. Early laminated safety glass often separated at the edges, allowing water & other contaminants between the panes. The solution was to seal the edges with a sealant. Advances in the laminating process rendered black edging obsolete in 1941, but MAC's craftspeople have re-discovered & are practicing this lost art for the detail oriented customer.

 

Wheel Specifications

Material: Steel

Diameter: 1928-29 21", 1930-31 19"

Rim: Drop center type; width, 1928-29 2-3/4", 1930-31 3"

Number of Spokes: 30, 1/4" diameter

 

Tire Specifications

Size: 1928-29, 4.50" x 21" 1930-31, 4.75" x 19"

Recommended Tire Pressure: 35 Lbs

Station Wagon: 5" x 21" or 19", pressure 40 lbs

Tread Width: 21" = 3.75", 19"3.90"

 

Tire Tread Images


Firestone
19" or 21"


Goodrich
19" or 21"


Lester
19" or 21"


Excelsior
19" or 21"

Universal
19" or 21"

Bedford
19"

 

Front Brake Specifications

Braking Power: Front, 40%; Rear, 50%

Drum Diameter: 11" +/- .010"

Drum Width: 1-3/4"

Brake Shoe Length: 14"

Brake Shoe Width: 1-1/2"

Brake Shoe Lining Thickness: 3/16"

Brake Shoe Material: Woven wire & asbestos

Brake Rod Length: 51-7/16" thru 51-1/2"

 

Rear Emergency Brake Specifications

Drum Diameter: 9-5/8"

Drum Width: 1-3/4"

Brake Shoe Length: 28-3/4"

Brake Shoe Width: 1"

Brake Shoe Lining Thickness: 3/16" (original), 1/8" (ours)

Brake Shoe Material: Woven wire & asbestos

 

Front Axle & Spindle Specifications

Material Chrome alloy forging

Tensile Strength 125,000-145,000 PSI

Caster 5" (forward tilt)

Toe In 1/16" +/- 1/32"

Camber 1-13/16"

Spindle Bolt Diameter .8125" +/- .005"

Spindle Bolt Length 5-5/16"

Spindle Bolt to Bearing Clearance .001"-.002"

 

7-Tooth Steering Gear Specifications

Turning Radius: 17' (34' diameter)

Steering Gear Ratio: 1928-29, 11-1/4:1

Steering Wheel Diameter: 1928-29, 17-1/2"

Pitman Arm Length: 6-7/8" hole center to ball center

Ball End Angle to Shaft: 14°

Sector Shaft Bearing Clearance: .001"-.002"

 

2-Tooth Steering Gear Specifications

Turning Radius: 17' (34' diameter)

Steering Gear Ratio: 1930-31, 13:1

Steering Wheel Diameter: 1930-31, 17"

Pitman Arm Length: 6-7/8" hole center to ball center

Ball End Angle to Shaft: 14°

Sector Shaft Bearing Clearance: .001"-.002"

 

2-Tooth Steering Gear Housing Casting Markings

Dates
Gemmer
Ford
February - May 1929
“GEMMER” & “PAT. PDG.” in raised letters
Raised “F” on the side
February - May 1929
“GEMMER” & “PAT. PENDING” in indented letters
Raised “F” on the side
April 1929 - Mid 1930
“GEMMER” & “PATENTED” in indented letters
Raised “F” on the side
January 1930 - End
No ID
Indented “A-3550-C” on the engine side
January 1930 - End
No ID
Indented “A-3550-C” on the engine side & raised 5/16" or 9/16" letter “F” on the other side
Except for minor machining differences, all the above housings are virtually identical mechanically
& all new parts furnished will fit each one.

Ford & Gemmer were the two manufacturers of the 2-tooth steering box. All parts are interchangeable, except the worm gear, 2 races & 2 bearings. The Ford box has a large “F” on the outside where the worms are located. This change was made in December of 1930 (See page 518 Service Bulletins). The Ford box used a #9 roller bearing, while the Gemmer box used a #13 roller bearing. This also changes the taper on the bearings & races. The only parts available today are for the Gemmer box; therefore, if you have the Ford box with #9 roller bearings & it becomes necessary to change any of the 5 parts, then you must convert to all 5 of the Gemmer components (A3524CD, (2) BB3571, A3553D, BB3552)

 

600W Oil Usage Specifications

Transmission: 1 pint

Rear End: 1-1/2 Quarts

7-tooth Steering Box: 7-3/4 ounces

2-tooth Steering Box: 4-1/2 ounces

 

Rear Axle Specifications

Type: Three quarter floating

Material: Special Ford carbon manganese steel

Gear Ratio: 3.78:1 (34-9) Early 1928: 3.7:1 (37-10) Trucks: 4.11:1 (37-9) 1928-29 Roadsters: 3.54:1 (39-11)

Pinion Bearing Cup: Double taper roller type B4616

Bearing Cup: B4222

Differential Bearing: B4221

Ring Gear: 8.4" pitch diameter, 1-3/16" wide teeth

Axle Shaft: 1-1/8" diameter, 1.128"-1.130"

Dimension From Housing Flange to Bearing Shoulder: Before 1929-1.370"-1.372", After 1929-1.365"-1.367"

ID of Wheel Hub: 3.188"-3.190": max. wear 3.185"

Axle & Drive Shaft Seal: B4245

Inner Axle Seal: B4245

Differential Lubricant: 600W

New Bearing Torque: 20 foot pounds

Bolt Torque: 35 foot pounds

Axle Backlash: .010"-.015"

Axle End Play: .015"-.020"

Length of Full Spline: 2-1/2"

Spline Minor Diameter: .901"-.911"

Spline Outer Diameter: 1.090"-1.091"

Pinion Bearing Torque: 15-20 foot pounds

 

 

Front Spring Specifications

Material: Chromium steel alloy

Front Spring Leaf Width: 1-3/4"

Front Spring Free Length: 30-13/16" to 30-15/16"

Leaf Thickness: 1-31/32" to 2-1/16"

Spring Off Car- Height from Top to Bottom as Sitting on Floor: 6-15/16" to 7-1/16"

Spring Off Car- Center of Eye to Eye: 30-5/8" to 30-13/16"

Ford blueprints called for each leaf to be coated with
a thick paste of graphite ground in oil.

 

Rear Spring Specifications

Material Chromium steel alloy

Rear Spring Leaf Width 2-1/4"

Rear Spring Free Length
Tudor & Fordor: 38-7/8" to 39"
Roadster & Coupes: 38-7/8" to 39-1/2"

Ford blueprints called for each leaf to be coated with
a thick paste of graphite ground in oil.

 

Cylinder Head Specifications

1928 Head: 4.3:1 compression ratio, 47.3 HP, 242cc displacement. Compression in individual cylinders: 80, 85, 83, 82 PSI

1930 Head: 4.1:1 compression ratio, 44.3 HP, 258cc displacement. Compression in individual cylinders: 77, 79, 82, 79 PSI

Normal Listed Compression: A6050A, 75 pounds; A6050B, 110 pounds; B6050, 90 pounds

Head Nut Torque: 50 foot pounds

 

Engine Specifications

Rated Horsepower: 24.03 SAE

Brake Horsepower: 40 HP at 2200 rpm (Model AF 28 at 2000 rpm)

Firing Order: 1-2-4-3

Compression Ratio: 4.11:1

Compression Pressure:: A6050A head, 76 PSI A6050B head, 110 PSI B6050 head, 90 PSI

Piston Displacement: 200.5 cubic inches

Bore: 3.876" (Model AF: 3.050")

Stroke: 4.250"

Torque: 128 foot pounds at 1000 rpm

Cylinder Offset from Crankshaft Centerline: 1/8"

Crankshaft to Camshaft Centerline: 4.155"

 

Piston Specifications

Displacement 200.5 cubic inches

Material Aluminum

Weight 1 lb. 1-7/8 oz. (476.8 grams)

Variance in Weight of Pistons +/- 2 grams

Weight with Rings Installed 1 lb. 4-1/2 oz. (581.2 grams)

Weight with Rings & Pin 1 lb. 8-3/4 oz. (701.7 grams)

Diameter 3.8745" (Bore 3.875")

Length 3-29/32"

Piston Skirt .001: small on the top than on the bottom of the skirt

Piston Pin Hole .9996" to .9998" diameter

Piston Pin Diameter 1.0001" to 1.0004"

Pin Length 3.536" to 3.546"

Compression Height (Top of piston to pin centerline) 1-29/32"

Variation in Piston Compression Height .003" to .005"

Piston Pin Bushing ID .992", OD 1.0675"

Length 1.593"

Pin Fit in Rod Bushing .0003" max

Pin Fit in Piston .0002" to .0005" shrink fit

Pin Bore Parallel to Head of Piston +/- .001"

Piston Fit in Cylinder .002" max

 

Piston Ring Specifications

Ring Diameter: Same as piston, 3.875" stock

Ring Groove: Depth, 7/32", Width - Upper 2, 1/8" Lower, 5/32"

Ring Taper: .001"- narrower at the top than the bottom

Ring Clearance in Groove: .001" to .002"

Ring End Gap: Top .012" to .015"; Middle .010" to .012"; Lower .008" to .010"

All piston ring sets are US made Grant or Hastings brands with 3 rings. The gap of the rings must not line up, MAC's suggests keeping them about a 1/4 turn from each other.

 

Connecting Rod Specifications

Material: Steel forging

Weight: 1 lb, 6 oz.

Balance Weight: 552 grams +/- 1 gram, crank end 198 grams +/- 1 gram, pin end

Length: 7-1/2" center to center

Crankshaft Bearing: 1-1/2" diameter, 1-5/8" wide

Piston Pin Bearing: 1" diameter, 1-5/8" wide

Bearing Side Clearance: .008" to .012"

Pin Side Clearance: .040" to .053" between pin bosses

Piston Pin Clearance: .0005"

Crankshaft Clearance: .001"

Bearing Cap Bolt Torque: 40-50 foot pounds.

Connecting rod is assembled with oil dippers toward camshaft.

 

Camshaft Specifications

Shaft Diameter: 7/8"

Bearing Diameter: 1.560"

Block Bore Diameter: 1.561"

Bearing Clearance: (Max.) .003"

Bearing Length: Front, 1-3/4"; Center, 2"; Rear, 1"; 4th (1928), 7/8"

Lift of Cam: .030" (Model B: .339" exhaust; .334" intake)

Duration: 236º

Lobe Center Angle: 113-1/2º

End Play Spring Tension: Approximately 35 pounds

Timing Gear Mounting Flange: 2-5/16" diameter, 5/16" thick

Camshaft Material: Special Ford carbon manganese steel

Cam Shaft Gear: Bakelized material

Number of Gear Teeth: 50

Camshaft Gear Type: Spiral teeth

Gear Backlash: .003" to .005"

Gear Rotation Speed: 1/2 of crankshaft

Camshaft Straightness: .0005" to .001"

Variation in Eccentricity of Pitch Diameter of Gear Teeth: .0015"

Variation in Maintaining Center Distance of Mating Gears +/-: .001"

Gear Tolerances in Regular Spacing of Teeth: 0.0"

 

Crankshaft Specifications

Material: Ford carbon manganese steel

Weight: 28 pounds

Length: 26"

Diameter: 1.624" main bearings; 1.499" crank pins

Length of Main Bearings: Front & Center, 2"; Rear 3"

Length of Crank Pins: 1-5/8"

Crank Pin Taper & Roundness: .0005" to .001"

Total Main Bearing Surface: 11-1/2 square inches

Rear Flange Thickness: 3/8"

Crankshaft Gear: 25 spiral teeth

End Clearance: .004" to .007"

Main Bearing Clearance: .001"

Crankshaft Straightness: .0005" to .001"

Main Bearing Cap Torque: 80-100 foot pounds

Distance from Top Surface of Front Cross Member to Crankshaft Centerline: 2-33/64"

 

Flywheel Specifications

Weight: 63 lbs., 4 oz. (Model B 52 to 55 lbs.)

Balance: Within 15 in./oz.

Ring Gear Shoulder Diameter: 12.470"

Ring Gear Outside Diameter: 14.2"

Number of Ring Gear Teeth: 112

Ring Gear to Starter Drive Ratio: 11.2: 1

Flywheel Bolt Torque: 65 foot pounds

Pilot bearing hole is concentric with crankshaft flange shoulder within .002" TIR (Total Indicator Reading).

Clutch mounting surface & clutch disc surface must run true to crankshaft within .005" TIR (Total Indicator Reading).
Clutch mounting shoulder diameter must be concentric with crankshaft flange diameter within .005" TIR (Total Indicator Reading).

Flywheels provide momentum to keep the crankshaft spinning. As the flywheel spins faster, a vibration will occur if it’s out of balance. It’s best to have your flywheel, with clutch & pressure plate, balanced so that when you place in the clutch disc & reinstall the pressure plate it will retain balance.

 

Valve Specifications

Lift .287" with .015" clearance

Seat Angle 45º

Seat Width 3.32"

Stem Diameter .311"

Valve Length 5.677"

Head Diameter 1.537"

Valve Opening Diameter 1-3/8"

Port Diameter 1-3/8"

Clearance, Exhaust Valves in Guides .002"

Clearance, Intake Valves in Guides .001" to .0015"

Valve Lifter Clearance .010" to .013"

Lifter Diameter Clearance .0015"

Valve Guides .3135" ID; .5938" OD; length 2.125" (early 2.375")

Valve Spring 1.022" OD; free length 2-15/16"; comp. length
2-1/14" (57-64 lbs.); tension (closed) 34 to 38 lbs.

Valve Lifter A6500A (used with A camshaft), length 2.486";
head diameter 1.117".

Valve Timing Intake opens 7-1/2º before Top Dead Center; closes 48-1/2º after Bottom Dead Center. Exhaust opens 51-1/2º before Bottom Dead Center; closes 4-1/2º after Top Dead Center.

 

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